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God Bless America: Is the US Above Disciplining? Minimize
Location: BlogsEnd Time Money - Wilfred Hahn    
Posted by: Wilfred Hahn 10/21/2006 1:13 PM

Several recent responses to this blog prompts the question in the title to this update.  (Please see my remarks in the comment section in this blog.  I have been more than thrilled with the responses received from Prophezine members.)

 

Indeed, is the USA headed for a “disciplining” or judgment?  Or, does it deserve God’s favorable response to the popular invocation “God Bless America”?

 

No doubt, it is a heavily contested topic.  Some teachers argue that the best is yet to come for the great “Christian” nation of America.  On the opposite end, resorting to various prophetic approaches — from Old Testament parallels with Israel and Judah, to the fringe views of Celtic or British Israelism and USA as Babylon the Great — that a horrible destruction, if not a shattering disciplining, is barreling down toward us.

 

Is a disciplining coming?  I certainly have an opinion on that question.  However, it is an analytic view, not an emotional one … or so I like to believe.  In the first instance, I draw my conclusions from Biblical principles and precedents.  But also, secular analysis.

 

No doubt, the USA — and other Anglo-Saxon nations such as the UK and Canada — were major benevolent influences upon the world in many, many ways over the past two centuries or so.  But is that all past tense?

 

Perhaps my perspective is subject to some cultural bias.  As an individual who is very close to American culture, my views are likely not colored by excessive patriotism.  I’m a Canadian.  But, I like to think that my views have been primarily shaped by international perspective.  While I enjoy living in Canada and traveling in the US, I am more plugged into the global scene, than with what is going on in Canada.  Traveling around the globe, I have been exposed to the global perspectives of other cultures.  From that vantage point, what I see happening to and in America literally makes me dumbstruck.

 

It just doesn’t seem plausible that a great nation such as the US could be perpetrating such unwise policies (financial, economic, social, religious … etc.) without experiencing more outrage and backlash from citizens.  Even more chilling, its rising vulnerability is happening so quick!  What makes it all the more unbelievable is that America has had such a strong Christina heritage to begin with.  If a country such as Liberia, a chaotic country riddled with animist religions, implodes or declines we are not surprised.  But America?

 

A few current milestones in this respect from the economic realm: Sometime, this month, China will have accumulated over $1 trillion of foreign reserves … most of it in US dollars.  This is big — unprecedented in history!.  Its trade surplus with the US is hurtling toward $200 billion per annum.  Overall, America, supposedly the most prosperous major nation in the world, is borrowing near 80% of the world’s net savings.  We’re fast heading to a $1 trillion annual deficit.  But it won’t stop there if current trends continue.  It’ll keep rising … maybe hitting $2 trillion well before the end of the decade.

 

Also, in recent months, America for the first time is recording an income deficit with the rest of the world.  It is just one more sign of the rapid devolution of what is (was) a mighty America.

 

But don’t worry.  Or, so say our fearless leaders and blind (or lying) lapdogs.  The housing bust?  Things are already stabilizing they now argue, not having predicted a bust in the first place.  The good news?  Housing is now more affordable.  From my perspective, the truth is more likely that the worst is yet to come … a lot worse.

 

But look, the Dow Jones Stock index is rising to new highs, say the highly-paid lapdogs.  All is going well.  My answer?  Well, that is exactly the point.  Americans and others have been conditioned and duped into believing that financial indices and other false images of wealth are the sure indicator of the right and steady road … that all is well.  That is the KEY deception of our time.  The world of money and economic statistics are laced with lies and manipulation as never before.  That can be proved (for which I do not have space here).

 

The bottom line?  I believe that a massive disciplining is coming.  Simple common sense and secular analysis alone points to this conclusion.  But more importantly, we know God is not mocked.  If He punished Sodom, and disciplined ancient Israel for similar sins, should any other countries or peoples be exempt from the same standard?

 

What do you think?  Is there still time to change our ways?  Or, is it much too late?
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God Bless America: Is the US Above Disciplining?    By markemorrison on 10/23/2006 4:15 PM
Mr. Han-
It is too late in my opinion! Most people hear the news and just go back to the daily chores of getting through each day. Debt is out of control for both the individual and the government. You hear most people talking about government spending being out of control and who does not agree. But it is both parties - republicans are borrow and spend and deomcrates are tax and spend. Both are spenders. But, the same people that compain about our government are also deficit spending for themselves. The savings rate in the US has been negative for some time now. Many congregations are approving more spending for "better" facilities - more debt. At some point this all will change - terrorism, bad financial news, war in the middle east, North Korea. Some cataclysmic event will spur a downturn, and it will not be pretty.

I believe people should be trying to get out of debt and that includes paying off mortgages. But what after that? We can be those lighthouses in our neighborhood if we prepare accordingly. That is the big question.

Mr. Hahn, you see the global deceptions, where should a Christian who is debt free, and planning on retirement, college education and other items be investing? I know it is all based on current situation and time frame. Are you investing in bonds/cd's and precious metals? Do you still invest some in the stock market?

I thank you for taking the time on this blog!.


Re: God Bless America: Is the US Above Disciplining?    By Bob Greene on 10/25/2006 5:15 PM
It’s never too late to repent, look at Nineveh, sure Jonah wanted to see them destroyed but God brought them to repentance and they were spared. God is Gracious and Merciful and there is a lot of evidence of that in my life, I thank God daily for His love for me and I pray that He will spare this once great Christian Nation. However if we are not to repent as a people and a nation then I would imagine we are in for some troubling times. Putting Nineveh in perspective with God’s wrath being poured out on Sodom one has to think there is but one way to avoid the fate of Sodom, and that is repentance and a turning away from our wickedness. I don’t think that it is too late; however I don’t pretend to know the mind of God either.

It is hard to imagine the speed at which these drastic changes are taking place, but it is even harder to imagine these changes going basically unchallenged by the population as a whole. Most Christians I know have more or less opted for the route of the Ostrich. We should stand up for our convictions and say enough of this, but when will this happen? We have become drunk with the lusts of this world, its possessions, sex, greed, the list goes on. It is becoming increasingly difficult around here to find a Church that will touch such topics, as most don’t want to upset the congregants and lose members.

I pretty much agree with Wilfred’s observations, this just can’t go on forever, at some point the debt load will become too much and the whole system will implode under the mounting pressure.

Where can we safely invest our money for the future?


In Christ,


Bob Greene


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